Where in the Bible…?

One of the phrases that I hear the most when having religious discussions with Protestants is “Well, where is that in the Bible?” I think that they should ask themselves, (and Catholics should ask them this too) “Where does the Bible say that everything Christian must be found in the Bible?”

After all, where does the Bible claim to be the pillar of truth? Of course, the Bible is an infallible source of God’s Word, but is it the foundation of all truth? Answer: No.

The Bible itself says that the Church is the pillar and foundation of truth.  (1 Timothy 3:15)

The Bible itself says to “…hold the traditions which you have learned, whether by word, or by our epistle.” (2 Thes. 2:14)

No where does the Bible claim to be the only teacher of the Christian faith. It explicitly states otherwise.

 

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17 thoughts on “Where in the Bible…?

  1. Protestants often quote the verses in the Bible where corrupt traditions of men are condemned (Matt. 15:2-6; Mark 7:8-13; Col. 2:8). They seem to think that since Jesus condemned man-made traditions that nullify the Word of God, then all tradition is bad and useless. Catholics disagree with this. True, apostolic Tradition is to be endorsed positively. This Tradition is in total harmony with and consistent with Scripture.

    Let us remember that Jesus Christ commissioned the Apostles to “preach the Gospel to every creature”(Mark 16:15), not to “write down everything that I have taught you in one big book.” The Apostles oral teaching was to be believed, as it was binding (Luke 10:16). The prophet Isaiah prophesied of how the Word of the Lord would not depart from his people’s mouths; and would remain with them forever (Is. 59:21) This shows how important Tradition really is; not only the Bible holds the authoritative Christian teaching. This oral teaching will last forever, says Simon Peter.

    “But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel hath been preached unto you.” (1 Peter 1:25)

    Be aware of the word preached–it was oral. This was guaranteed to last.

    Let’s look at a few examples of tradition being taught by the Bible.

    “And they were persevering in the doctrine of the apostles, and in the communication of the breaking of bread, and in prayers.” (Acts 2:42, emphasis added)

    The first Christians persevered in the doctrine of the apostles, not solely on the Bible. The New Testament was not written at this particular time, so this does not help the Protestant argument.

    “Now I praise you, brethren, that in all things you are mindful of me: and keep my ordinances as I have delivered them to you.” (1 Cor. 11:2, emphasis added)

    These “ordinances” that Paul has delivered to the Corinthians are his traditions-something that is to be upheld, according to the Apostle.

    “Therefore, brethren, stand fast; and hold the traditions which you have learned, whether by word, or by our epistle.” (2 Thes. 2:14, emphasis added)

    St. Paul commands the holding of oral and written Tradition–not Scripture alone.

    “What you heard from me, keep as the pattern of sound teaching, with faith and love in Christ Jesus. Guard the good deposit that was entrusted to you—guard it with the help of the Holy Spirit who lives in us.” (2 Tim.1:13-14)

    Paul tells Timothy to keep the sound teaching he has heard from him–oral Tradition.

    “And the things you have heard me say in the presence of many witnesses entrust to reliable people who will also be qualified to teach others.”(2 Timothy 2:2, emphasis added)

    Paul tells Timothy to entrust to “reliable people” the teaching he has heard him say. This teaching that Timothy has heard is oral teaching–Tradition. Tradition is taught to be held as binding by the Church’s believer’s; not only Scripture. St. Paul approves of Apostolic Tradition, apart from the harmful traditions of men.

    The Apostles’ oral Tradition is of the same authority as the Bible! Christ told them this by saying:

    “He who receives you receives Me, and he who receives Me receives Him who sent Me.” (Matthew 10:40)

    “He who hears you hears Me, and he who rejects you rejects Me, and he who rejects Me rejects Him who sent Me.” (Luke 10:16)

    Tradition and Sacred Scripture are of the same authority, not “Scripture Alone”. Neither of them contradict each other.

    Protestants defending Sola Scriptura will claim that Jesus and Paul accepted the authority of the Old Testament. This is true, but they also appealed to other authority outside of written revelation. For example:

    In Matthew 23:2-3, Jesus teaches that the scribes and Pharisees have a legitimate, binding authority based “on Moses’ seat,” but this phrase or idea cannot be found anywhere in the Old Testament.

    In 1 Corinthians 10:4, Paul refers to a rock that “followed” the Jews through the Sinai wilderness. The Old Testament says nothing about such miraculous movement.

    “As Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses” (2 Tim. 3:8). These two men cannot be found in the related Old Testament passage (Ex. 7:8) or anywhere else in the Old Testament.

    The reference to “He shall be called a Nazarene” cannot be found in the Old Testament, yet it was “spoken by the prophets” (Matt. 2:23). Therefore, this prophecy, which is considered to be “God’s word,” was passed down orally rather than through Scripture.

    So no, your claim that Jesus or the Apostles never appealing to Jewish traditions does not hold any water.

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  2. Jesus equates the Scriptures with God’s Word (John 10:35). In contrast, when it comes to the religious traditions, He condemns some traditions because they contradict the written Word (Mark 7:1-13). Never does Jesus use religious tradition to support His actions or teachings. Before the writing of the New Testament, the Old Testament was the only inspired Scripture. However, there were literally hundreds of Jewish “traditions” recorded in the Talmud (a collection of commentary compiled by Jewish rabbis). Jesus and the apostles had both the Old Testament, and the Jewish tradition. Nowhere in Scripture does Jesus or any of the apostles appeal to the Jewish traditions. In contrast, Jesus and the apostles quote from or allude to the Old Testament hundreds of times. The Pharisees accused Jesus and the apostles of “breaking the traditions” (Matthew 15:2). Jesus responded with a rebuke: “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition?” (Matthew 15:3). The manner in which Jesus and the apostles distinguished between the Scriptures and tradition is an example for the church. Jesus specifically rebukes treating the “commandments of men” as doctrines (Matthew 15:9).

    It is Scripture that has the promise that it will never fail, that it will all be fulfilled. Never is this promise given to the traditions of the church (Psalm 119:89,152; Isaiah 40:8; Matthew 5:18; Luke 21:33).

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    • It should also be noted that the Bible is Tradition — the teaching of the Apostles and followers of Jesus (The NT that is) compiled to writing. The Word of God is not only found in the Bible, there is the unwritten Word of Tradition. Without Tradition and the Catholic Magisterium, there would be no Bible. By you using your Bible, you are assenting to the authority of the Catholic Church in one aspect, due to the fact that it was the Catholic Church that assembled the Canon of Scripture, including the New Testament.

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      • The Christian church, as an earthly organization, recognized the Word of God (John 10:27). It didn’t give us the Word of God. Also, it was the Jews who gave us the Old Testament. The authenticity of the New Testament documents rests in the inspiration of God through the apostles–not the Catholic Church. Furthermore, the Roman Catholic Church did not give us the Old Testament. The Jews did. How can the RCC claim it gave us the Bible when it did not give us the Old Testament? Finally, when the Catholic Church claims that it is the source of the sacred Scriptures, it is, in effect, placing itself above the word of God by claiming that through its authority we received the word of God.

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      • The RCC gave the world the Bible in the respect that the RCC was the first to put together the Bible as we know it today. Before St. Jerome put together the Bible as a whole, they was no “Bible”, but only collections of manuscripts scattered across the Holy Land area.

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    • In the contrary private interpretation is explicitly condemned.

      “As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction.”
      [2 Peter 3:16]

      While the word of God is infallible people’s interpretation and different “versions” have not been. There is mass confusion as to what Christianity is. The Catholic Church is the guardian of truth, not someone’s own interpretation of who Christ is and what His message for us is.

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    • Your first statement concerning the lack of use of tradition is completely off. Not only did Christ incorporate Jewish tradition into practically everything He did but He also established the Catholic Mass at the Last Supper. That combined with His crucifixion is the sacrifice we have to offer God in reparation for our sins as well for thanksgiving. Just as the Jews sacrificed the Pascal lamb for their sins and offered the best bread and wine in thanksgiving. In fact almost all the traditions used by Christ and us Catholics today, that were taken from the Jews, were given to the Jews by God the Father through Moses and other patriarchs. I believe people would have a better understanding if they would stop interpreting things to be the way want and taking things out of context; look at how intricately connected the Jews of the Old Testament and their customs are connected with the true Roman Catholic Church. Do Protestants use incense to bless the word of God, do the offer any pleasing type of sacrifice in reparation for their sins? Do they stand when the gospel is read, kiss the Word of God, do they bless themselves with the sign of the cross as all things should be done in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost? Most Protestants don’t even know their churches come from ex-Catholics who could not stand the moral rigor of the only Church that goes back to the time of Christ. Most Protestants don’t even know that scripture in some versions of the Bible has been altered or even omitted to suit who ever started that particular denominations practices. Everything was Catholic and it can be denied all day long but it is an historical fact, it is the Truth and where the Truth is God is.

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    • The Word of God is not liable to corruption you are correct, but man’s interpretation is. Christ promised to be with His Church “even unto the connsumation of the world…” not to be with someone’s interpretation that contradicts any of the commandments or other “Christian” religions.

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      • Tradcat, have you checked out the site “All Along the Watchtower”? I think you’d like it. I’m a guest blogger on there. The admin is a Catholic who allows both Catholic and non-Catholic writers to post articles, which more often than not leads to long discussion. There are some non-Catholics who do learn a lot from the Catholic articles. I think you should take a look and maybe blog on there.

        https://jessicahof.wordpress.com/

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